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[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Tidal launch review
Mushroom_3
2015-04-05 10:17:55 UTC
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I know the ickStream people are highlighting Tidal and all that, but I
found a couple of laugh out loud bits in this "review" of the launch.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/04/04/streaming_tears_of_laughter_as_jayz_tidal_waves_goodbye_to_56m/


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mintaudio
2015-04-06 08:16:50 UTC
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Hailing from the IT sector, I do frequent The Reg and particularly
Alistair's column. I must admit this line at end made me chuckle in
light of the all the 'DSD vs PCM' type of arguments that litter the
forums..

-"Not being an audiophile, he can’t tell you whether listening to Jay-Z
at 320Kbit/sec is any better than, say, putting it in a biscuit tin and
burying it six feet underground."-

That said, I do like Tidal. I just hope it's new owners look after it
appropriately.
Post by Mushroom_3
I know the ickStream people are highlighting Tidal and all that, but I
found a couple of laugh out loud bits in this "review" of the launch.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/04/04/streaming_tears_of_laughter_as_jayz_tidal_waves_goodbye_to_56m/
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ralphpnj
2015-04-07 22:28:29 UTC
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Post by Mushroom_3
I know the ickStream people are highlighting Tidal and all that, but I
found a couple of laugh out loud bits in this "review" of the launch.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/04/04/streaming_tears_of_laughter_as_jayz_tidal_waves_goodbye_to_56m/
Thanks for the link - a wholly enjoyable read.

Now why aren't there any US based journalists willing to write this kind
of stuff?

His take down of the entire Beats universe is absolutely brilliant and
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Not wanting to piss on the Tidal parade – not least because Madonna has
already done so – I do wonder whether these shitty pop artists (what the
hell was Jack White doing there?) were persuaded to invest in the
service after watching from the sidelines as Dr Dre and his mate
pocketed $3bn for a graphic equaliser setting, a bunch of links and a
pair of headphones designed to look as if they were glued together out
of a squeezy bottle by a Blue Peter presenter.
But then again Beats headphones are a perfect fit for most popular
music.



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hsmeets
2015-04-08 08:35:33 UTC
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mhmm, enjoyable read indeed and a somewhat surreal (re)launch to look at
in the video.

The biggest threat to streaming occurs when artists and labels (i
suppose the labels have more to say in this then the artists) pull
catalogs and only provide them via one, at best two, streaming
providers. In that scenario they will be doing themselves and their
audience a disservice. Imagine to pay for multiple streaming services as
Madonna is only available on A and DeadMaus only on B. The Deutsche
Gramophone catalog only on C and the Harmonia Mundi catalog only on D.
That won't happen, some will though, but the majority will not. It could
also lead to an increase of piracy again.

Even though the artists "own" Tidal I suspect they will not start
pulling there catalogs on other streaming platforms.

My observation is that the business model for artists/labels is changing
again. Before music could be recorded most artist had to live from
performances and selling sheet music (to other performers). The ability
to record and distribute your music changed that. It was also some kind
of Win-Win with your audience as they could now listen anytime/anywhere
to your music, so they started to buy. The customer was willing to pay a
premium for that. Technology has changed again and basically "turned
against them". There was no longer a need to buy a physical product as
it is so easy to copy and distribute.

Artists likely will see a return of live performances as main income.



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ralphpnj
2015-04-08 11:59:18 UTC
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Post by hsmeets
mhmm, enjoyable read indeed and a somewhat surreal (re)launch to look at
in the video.
The biggest threat to streaming occurs when artists and labels (i
suppose the labels have more to say in this then the artists) pull
catalogs and only provide them via one, at best two, streaming
providers. In that scenario they will be doing themselves and their
audience a disservice. Imagine to pay for multiple streaming services as
Madonna is only available on A and DeadMaus only on B. The Deutsche
Gramophone catalog only on C and the Harmonia Mundi catalog only on D.
That won't happen, some will though, but the majority will not. It could
also lead to an increase of piracy again....
What you say about needing multiple streaming services/subscriptions is
already the case with video and the only power that the consumer has is
piracy.



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Mnyb
2015-04-08 17:25:11 UTC
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In the land of the blind the one eyed is king....

Where i live its spotify or wimp . So i try both at the moment . Wonder
if i can try tidal to ? The ios app is it different ?

My beef with spotify is its horrible ios app and wimp is not much
better.... meh :/



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hsmeets
2015-04-08 17:44:36 UTC
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Post by Mnyb
In the land of the blind the one eyed is king....
Where i live its spotify or wimp . So i try both at the moment . Wonder
if i can try tidal to ? The ios app is it different ?
My beef with spotify is its horrible ios app and wimp is not much
better.... meh :/
Aren't tidal and wimp the same? Or at least closely related



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Mnyb
2015-04-08 18:49:20 UTC
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Aren't tidal and wimp the same? Or at least closely related
Yes but some diffs in design and user experience



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Archimago
2015-04-13 15:25:04 UTC
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they are getting with the TIDAL Test? I'm sure -thousands -of folks have
tried it. As I recall, they had 5 samples (lossy - was it 320kbps? vs.
lossless).

So I'm wondering if they're seeing significantly more than ~3% getting
all 5 samples correct.



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ralphpnj
2015-04-13 15:32:33 UTC
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they are getting with the TIDAL Test? I'm sure -thousands -of folks have
tried it. As I recall, they had 5 samples (lossy - was it 320kbps? vs.
lossless).
So I'm wondering if they're seeing significantly more than ~3% getting
all 5 samples correct.
Archimago you should know better. The ONLY statistic TIDAL is interested
in is the number of people who hear enough of a difference between Tidal
and lossy streaming services to subscribe to TIDAL. And who wouldn't
after watching Madonna dry hump the table.



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Archimago
2015-04-14 04:03:52 UTC
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Archimago you should know better. The ONLY statistic TIDAL is interested
in is the number of people who hear enough of a difference between Tidal
and lossy streaming services to subscribe to TIDAL. And who wouldn't
after watching Madonna dry hump the table.
:-)

Then there's this "surprise" Drake kiss today:
http://www.tmz.com/2015/04/13/drake-madonna-kiss-coachella-video/

That Madonna is getting -really- desperate for attention I think.



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garym
2015-04-17 22:49:59 UTC
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I've been trialing the TIDAL hi-fi (16/44.1) streaming service for
almost 3 weeks based on the free ickstream trial. It has decent
selection for my tastes based on my limited use (about the same as
Spotify), but I'll not likely continue as I frequently get buffering at
certain times (typically early evening). I suspect this is
infrastructure overload on Tidal's end. On my end, I have >100mbps
download speed on my internet connection, local network, server, and
players are all ethernet/gigabit connected, with no problems playing
even 24/96 files, and during the times that Tidal is buffering, I can
test to see that I can easily stream HD video from the internet with no
buffering. At other random times of the day I can play for many hours
with no buffering.

But bottom line for me is that the buffering is a sign that Tidal has
some growing pains to go through before I'll subscribe. Spotify is more
than enough for me in any case in terms of quality of the stream, but
I'm not against the idea of paying $19/month for a good library of FLAC
streams. But at that price (or any price) I'm not willing to put up with
buffering.



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krochat
2015-04-18 00:23:47 UTC
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... I'll not likely continue as I frequently get buffering at certain
times (typically early evening). I suspect this is infrastructure
overload on Tidal's end.
Are you sure the rebuffering isn't ickstream? I also get rebuffering on
my Touch at certain times, but when the Squeezebox is struggling if I go
to the Tidal PC app, I can play tracks with no problem.

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pippin
2015-04-18 04:07:53 UTC
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Post by krochat
Are you sure the rebuffering isn't ickstream? I also get rebuffering on
my Touch at certain times, but when the Squeezebox is struggling if I go
to the Tidal PC app, I can play tracks with no problem.
Kim
Do you still see that? Where are you located?

There should not be any ickStream specific buffering issues anymore.

In the beginning there was an issue with TIDAL using wrong streaming
servers when streams were requested by us because the requests were not
coming directly from the server. But when TIDAL rolled out their new CDN
a few weeks ago this should have been fixed and actually we haven't
really seen specific cases since then.

I have seen a few cases with stuttering, too, but in all of these cases
TIDAL's app and especially web interface were similarly affected.

There is one risk remaining: especially the old Squeezebox models have a
rather small internal buffer so they are a bit more sensitive against
unstable connections compared to especially the smartphone Apps (but
TIDAL's web interface for me always was even more sensitive).
The Touch should be much less affected, though.
From what I can see TIDAL are still improving their content
distribution, these things usually take a lot of tweaking until they are
really good under all conditions.

But from what I know I see no reason why there should be ickStream
specific performance issues. We also no longer have performance issues
on our service itself. We had some, especially on weekends, in the
beginning but these are fixed now, we haven't seen a lockup or
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krochat
2015-04-18 04:21:56 UTC
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Do you still see that? Where are you located?
There should not be any ickStream specific buffering issues anymore.
Hi Pippin,

I was getting heavy rebuffering on my Touch this afternoon (4/17)
between 3-5pm PDT (UTC-8).
I'm in Washington state, USA.

This was the first rebuffering I'd gotten in several days, and I did not
check the Tidal PC app (not the Web player) today to see if it was
having problems.

Next time I will check the PC app and let you know if it works OK while
the Squeezebox is rebuffering.

Thanks for the explanations,
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garym
2015-04-18 12:49:29 UTC
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Post by pippin
There is one risk remaining: especially the old Squeezebox models have a
rather small internal buffer so they are a bit more sensitive against
unstable connections compared to especially the smartphone Apps (but
TIDAL's web interface for me always was even more sensitive).
The Touch should be much less affected, though.
@pippin, Could you elaborate on this. So my Transporter has a smaller
internal buffer than my Touch or Radio. But why would the stream from
Tidal place more demands on that buffer than streaming a 24/96 FLAC file
to the same players from my local LMS. Why would the Transporter treat
the internet stream different than the local stream?



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pippin
2015-04-18 13:48:00 UTC
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@pippin, Could you elaborate on this. So my Transporter has a smaller
internal buffer than my Touch or Radio.
Well, it's all about that "Net Neutrality" thing everybody keeps talking
about.

Yes. I don't know the exact figures for the Transporter but Touch and
Radio use 3MB which is a bit of a top-end compromise. iPeng by default
uses 8MB but to do this we had to include an option to use a smaller
buffer because it conflicts with some services, namely Pandora but also
internet radio stations can be affected and e.g show wrong track
information.

You rarely really need a big buffer over your local network, iPeng's is
primarily there for people using it e.g. in a car.

What a larger buffer buys you is reliability with unstable connections.
It doesn't help when bandwidth is the problem (because then you won't
get a large buffer filled anyway) and you don't need it when everything
is fine.

But streaming over the internet _can_ be unstable. "Unstable" in this
case might simply mean that a packet shows up 10s late because something
on the way between the server and you is congested. This is a problem
for streaming and the reason streaming providers build up those huge
CDNs (content distribution networks). It's not the bandwidth itself
(which is usually sufficient) and not the latency (which doesn't matter,
you're going to buffer more than one or two seconds anyway and you
almost never have more latency than that), it's congestion causing
interruptions.

Now... a little background on what happens on your network on Saturday
evening...
What the internet is being used for (in the US) on Saturday evening is
Netflix and YouTube. The two combined make up more than 50% of peak
internet traffic in the US.
http://www.techtimes.com/articles/20686/20141122/netflix-is-hogging-35-percent-of-peak-internet-traffic-in-north-america-what-about-others.htm

That's a lot of traffic you need to get your packets through. But that
alone is not the biggest issue. The biggest issue is that NetFlix and
YouTube have priority access to your network (to the distribution
network from the backbone to your home) because they don't feed their
stream through the "normal" internet backbone but directly to the ISP's
networks.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2014/10/01/understanding-netflix-neutrality/

What this means in this case is: when your TIDAL stream arrives at your
ISP's network, all those NetFlix and YouTube streams are already there
using up bandwidth and your packets have to make their way through the
rest. There is enough capacity that they will get through, that's why
you still see high bandwidth figures when you measure your connection,
but some may arrive later because they had to wait (or even be
re-transmitted if it's an IP based stream) and if the delay for one
packet exceeds your buffer size... dang.

You can get around this with a bigger buffer because the overall
bandwidth is not affected. After some of your packets waited for 10s it
might be that a lot of them arrive almost at the same time so you _do_
have bandwidth to fill a bigger buffer which is why you often build
bigger buffers into the native Apps for such services - after all the
service knows it has to support that.

All of that said: That's for "normal" operation.
From my experience with occasional issues with TIDAL I actually had the
impression that when there is heavy stuttering then there is a bandwidth
issue of some kind because streams never really recover. I don't know
whether it's on my side or on TIDAL's. It usually goes away after a few
minutes (it's also pretty rare). It could be that e.g. something in my
area is temporarily eating a lot of bandwidth. Or, if it's on TIDAL's
side it could be that the node they are streaming through is too
congested. Given how fast things seem to usually improve I'd almost
guess it's the latter and TIDAL (or their CDN, I think they are not
operating that themselves) re-configures the network to use other, less
congested nodes instead.



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garym
2015-04-18 13:52:57 UTC
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Thanks for the detailed explanation. So I need to hope that TIDAL cuts
the same deals as Netflix in the future.



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pippin
2015-04-18 10:05:18 UTC
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Yes, please let me know. I usually also tell TIDAL then because I know
they are still optimizing their network and can use the feedback.



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garym
2015-04-18 12:42:22 UTC
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I don't think it is ickstream. I see the buffering on the TOUCH only as
well, so not just related to my older Transporter. Also I can have hours
and days of use with zero buffering. It is only sometimes. And those
sometimes are typically early evening for me (I'm in Eastern United
States). I get the same buffering on streaming via Chrome browser on my
PC. And again, at exactly the same time I can test streaming a HD movie
with no stuttering/problem on my > 100mbps internet connection.

(Note to those doing PC vs squeezebox comparisons: if one is using
firefox or explorer, you're not getting the 16/44.1 streams, only
320kbs streams. Those 16/44.1 streams ONLY work on Chrome)



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garym
2015-04-18 12:46:06 UTC
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hmmm. Tidal PC app? I didn't realize that existed. Right now it seems
to not be available for download, but I'll try it in future tests when
available.



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krochat
2015-04-18 15:18:37 UTC
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Post by garym
hmmm. Tidal PC app? I didn't realize that existed. Right now it seems
to not be available for download, but I'll try it in future tests when
available.
Well that's just wacky. It was on the http://www.tidal.com/download
page.

In the meantime, here's a link to the app I just put in my Dropbox:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/40830949/TIDAL-3.2.3.16-WW.exe

Have fun,
Kim



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garym
2015-04-18 15:25:19 UTC
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Well that's just wacky. It was on the http://www.tidal.com/download
page.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/40830949/TIDAL-3.2.3.16-WW.exe
Have fun,
Kim
Thanks. I downloaded and installed the app from your download. They
seem to be updating it at the moment so not available on the tidal
website for download. But I'm good with DL you provided. thanks again.



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Wirrunna
2015-04-19 13:18:46 UTC
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http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2015/04/jay-z-dumps-tidals-ceo-now-has-98-problems/



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Archimago
2015-04-22 16:24:56 UTC
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Still early going, but numbers not impressive apparently...

http://bgr.com/2015/04/21/tidal-vs-pandora-vs-spotify/



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Peiter
2015-04-26 17:04:31 UTC
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Hey ... which TIDAL http://www.tidal-audio.de/index.htm ? :)


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buelligan
2015-05-05 23:18:48 UTC
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I just wanted to add my voice to those having problems with Tidal. I
have exactly the same symptoms as garym. I also have the standalone PC
application v 3.2.3.16 and have the same rebuffering and poor connection
issues as I do with ickstream-Tidal on LMS. Other times, it will stream
for hours (on both Tidal app and LMS) with no issues. Not nearly often
enough though.

ickstream-Tidal would seem to be blameless. There are still some
functional/feature issues but nice job, overall.

I really want Tidal to succeed, but they have to get their act together
soon (as in last December).

Thanks,
Henry Aguado


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garym
2015-05-06 10:55:24 UTC
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I let my 30 day free trial expire without paying to extend. I'd like to
see it succeed, but I'll wait and see before I spend $20 a month. For
now I'm perfectly happy with Spotify for streaming.



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bb1959
2015-05-07 19:39:10 UTC
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TIDAL Support [EM] (TIDAL)
May 5, 13:05

Hello Brooks,

Thank you for contacting TIDAL customer support. We are working on
improving the streaming during peak hours, you can try to change your
dns https://developers.google.com/speed/public-dns/ to see if that
helps.

Best Regards,

Erik
TIDAL Support

This was from TIDAL regarding the buffering.


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