[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Unused Transporter SE's on eBay.com

[Golden Earring]

Hi all.

Just thought I'd let you know there's a guy in San Jose selling unused
all-black Transporter SE's on US eBay at a sharp price. He's registered
to eBay's Global Shipping Program, so you get an up-front guaranteed
price including all insurance, international shipping & import duties
for your country of residence - you do have to pay via PayPal to use
this service.

I ordered mine on Sat 4th Feb and it arrived on Sat 25th Feb. Had my
daughter & her fiancé staying over weekend, so only just had a chance to
hook it up - this was easy since I already had an early Slim Devices
branded model in my system. Pleased to report that it all works
perfectly, and cost me considerably less than I paid for my existing one
second-hand about 7 years ago.

Anyway, as of 2pm this afternoon UK time he's got 14 left. Thought
someone might appreciate the heads-up!

I am not getting any commission on his sales, FYI.

Happy shopping,
Dave :)


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[Archimago]

Indeed a fantastic price for the new device! :cool:



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[Fizbin]

I bought a Transporter last year from the 'other' ebay vendor who's also
selling them. I wanted to compare it with my Touch to see (or hear) if
some of the claims I read were true about the Transporter sounding
better. I'm not the bigger (or more expensive) is better type, so I was
going to be judging the sound on a neutral plain. In fact, I was hoping
my Touch would win or sound the same because I preferred its low profile
and GUI over the Transporter, plus I couldn't afford to keep both units.
So in essence, I wasn't planning on keeping the Transporter for too
long.

Anyway, as soon as I played the Transporter I knew I'd be reluctantly
keeping it. The sound quality was beyond what I was expecting. It was
almost like I had upgraded my amp. I wrote the specific differences, but
unfortunately I deleted the txt file by mistake. What stuck me from the
beginning were the realistic symbol crashes and the deeper bass.
Everything had more of a live, spacious sound.

I'm not necessarily saying the DAC is better in the Transporter but
obviously there are other forces at play, like analog output, power
supply, circuit design, etc.

Oh, and for those wondering, I did indeed level match.


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[Golden Earring]

Archimago wrote:
> Indeed a fantastic price for the new device! :cool:

I've owned a Transporter since 2009, skewered into my Pathos Logos amp
via XLR balanced interconnects (just Canford Audio ones, no snake oil!)
and listening through my B&W 805s loudspeakers with a painstaking
adjusted PV1 subwoofer. All of my gear is second-hand, except the 805s
which just weren't available s/h in 2009 & the new Transporter which
I've just bought for hardware redundancy insurance.

I'm really hard pushed to notice any difference between my music
streamed from my NAS and CD's played through my (s/h!) Pathos Digit CD
player which also has balanced interconnects. And from a convenience
standpoint it's no contest.

Have you actually listened to a Transporter?

But I don't want to start an argument, I simply posted the information
for the community's benefit: there aren't enough left for everyone to
buy one anyway...

I'm sure that the people who are interested will know who they are.

Best regards,
Dave :)


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[garym]

Golden Earring wrote:
>
> Have you actually listened to a Transporter?
>
> But I don't want to start an argument, I simply posted the information
> for the community's benefit: there aren't enough left for everyone to
> buy one anyway...
>
> I'm sure that the people who are interested will know who they are.
>
> Best regards,
> Dave :)

Archimago has a Transporter as far as I recall. And I'm pretty sure he
was being serious, not sarcastic in his comment. Given this, I don't
quite understand your response. No one in this thread has spoken
*against* the Transporter as a great device. (I have two, one in main
system and one spare).



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[Golden Earring]

garym wrote:
> Archimago has a Transporter as far as I recall. And I'm pretty sure he
> was being serious, not sarcastic in his comment. Given this, I don't
> quite understand your response. No one in this thread has spoken
> *against* the Transporter as a great device. (I have two, one in main
> system and one spare).

The Transporter cannot IMHO be seriously described as a new "device"
when the design is over 10 years old. That's why I thought I was having
my leg pulled.

Glad we're all agreed it's still the nuts - after all digital audio is a
fairly stable technology, despite the marketing claims of various hi-fi
manufacturers. And Class A amplification can't be beat, even though it
derives from the pre solid-state era. Abbey Road Studios use Classe
amplifiers from Canada, and I'd do the same if I won the lottery!

To repeat, I'm sorry if I took umbrage when no slight was intended. Over
200 people have viewed this thread already, so I seem to have achieved
my objective of putting the word out.

Hope everyone is happy now,
Dave


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[garym]

Golden Earring wrote:
> The Transporter cannot IMHO be seriously described as a new "device"
> when the design is over 10 years old. That's why I thought I was having
> my leg pulled.
>
> Glad we're all agreed it's still the nuts - after all digital audio is a
> fairly stable technology, despite the marketing claims of various hi-fi
> manufacturers. And Class A amplification can't be beat, even though it
> derives from the pre solid-state era. Abbey Road Studios use Classe
> amplifiers from Canada, and I'd do the same if I won the lottery!
>
> To repeat, I'm sorry if I took umbrage when no slight was intended. Over
> 200 people have viewed this thread already, so I seem to have achieved
> my objective of putting the word out.
>
> Hope everyone is happy now,
> Dave

no problem at all. thanks for posting. The price seems very reasonable.
And I think Archimago's comment re: "new" meant that these are
new-in-box stock vs a new design. But anyhow, all good and mission
accomplished.



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[Golden Earring]

Hi everyone.

I note that a lot of people have viewed this thread, and that 4 more
Transporter SE's have been bought from the source I mentioned since my
original posting.

Obviously I can't say for certain that this a result of my heads-up, but
it does represent a dramatic rise in the seller's sales trend. If any of
you have followed my lead, I hope that you'll be as delighted with your
purchase when it arrives as I was with mine.

However the main reason for posting again is to relate that I have just
today received a Mytek Brooklyn DAC which I got for a substantial
discount bidding in an eBay auction. Just like my dear departed Mum I do
love a bargain...

Anyway, using cables sourced from Canford Audio who supply all manner of
studio leads at sensible prices, I connected my Transporter using the
AES XLR digital output into a corresponding AES XLR digital input on the
Mytek, and also linked up the Brooklyn's 0.8ps jitter word clock to the
Transporter's word clock in (BNC lead). The Transporter's own clock with
20ps jitter has in the past been hailed as exceptional, and essentially
reducing jitter to an inaudible level. But less can be more, and using
the Mytek FemtoClock as master certainly won't do any harm to the
fidelity.

It took less than 30 minutes to adjust the Transporter settings through
the Windows GUI and to optimise the DAC settings. Turned my amp on low
volume to be careful, and then went for it...

It worked straight off, and the sound is totally stunning. I thought my
system was pretty good before but I'm astonished by the improvement.
It's like the best of analogue sound but with the noise floor and
extension of digital at both the top & bottom frequencies. The staging
can only be described as rock solid, and suddenly my subwoofer has
become more natural and totally controlled. Vocal and instrument timbres
are much more nuanced and the background is pitch black.

Yet again I find myself hearing low-level details on familiar recordings
that I've never heard before, as I did when I got my present amp &
speakers (and s/hand Slim Devices Transporter with knob) about 7 years
ago.

I strongly recommend anyone considering a high-end DAC to check the
Mytek Brooklyn out. Even at full price (around £1600) it's a steal
because it also incorporates an MC/MM analogue phono equalising amp for
vinyl fans and a separate headphone amp designed to drive even the most
demanding cans. There are two headphone jack sockets in opposite phase
to each other on the front panel that can be used in combination to
drive balanced headphones. With appropriate input it can handle PCM up
to 32bit/384kHz and DSD up to 256. The cherry on the top is that is at
present the only non-Meridian hardware to incorporate MQA decoding for
Bob Stuart's recent hi-res innovation. I believe that Warner have
acquired the rights to use MQA for their entire music catalogue, and it
has certainly received very positive reviewers who seem mostly to have
remained bemused how such "magic" could possibly work. As far as I can
establish, it's done with a combination of complex maths and a healthy
measure of neuroscience. I think you'd have to take Bob out and get him
drunk to learn the full story!

All that ultimately matters to me is how engaging the musical end
product is - my ears are always my only reliable guide. Of course it's
nice when equipment measures well in the lab (the Mytek does that too)
but there remains a subjective element to musical enjoyment that still
seems elusive to current measuring capabilities and of course the need
for synergistic components throughout the audio chain is essential. The
interface between the listening area and the speakers can often be the
most dominant factor.

My next project will be to sound-treat my own listening room which is
not too small at around 4.3m square, but of course square is not ideal,
and I also have a concrete floor (covered by generous underlay and a
thick pile carpet). The worst aspect is the beam-and-concrete ceiling
just over 2.4m above the floor and currently highly reflective on the
shortest parallel and therefore highest resonant frequency for the room.
Fortunately my upstairs neighbour is out quite a lot during the day, and
comes down for my personal cinema club almost every evening. This buys
me considerable goodwill!

These are just my initial impressions of this DAC which I just fired up
around 8:30pm tonight: so far I've only put 16bit/44.1kHz recordings
through it and it's now too late to test out my 24bit/96kHz stuff
without causing a public nuisance. I'll report again when I'm fully
familiarised with the Brooklyn. But it's got my vote for both
significant addition to my gear and for bargain of the week (maybe even
year).

Happy listening all,
Dave :)


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[Wombat]

Yes, neuroscience works. It means to make a listener to believe he hears
something while he doesn't.



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[Golden Earring]

Wombat wrote:
> Yes, neuroscience works. It means to make a listener to believe he hears
> something while he doesn't.

It's a good job I've already been assured that newbies don't get their
legs pulled on this forum.

I have no idea whether MQA encoding works as claimed (because I don't
have any) or whether it will ever become successful commercially. On the
other hand, it's a lot cheaper to manufacture & store digital download
files than say physical DVD-A or SACD's, which were a bit before my time
but I believe did not thrive...

As I stated, my initial impressions were of feeding the AES digital
output of my Transporter into the Mytek Brooklyn whilst making the
Transporter a slave to the Mytel's master FemtoClock, using
16bit/44.1kHz PCM music with which I am extremely familiar.

I've had the same hardware in my hi-fi for 7 years - I think that makes
me reasonably entitled to offer my opinion on the effect of introducing
a new DAC into my audio chain.

I'm enjoying the experience and ultimately, as also stated above, that's
all that matters to me.

Wishing everyone musical joy and peace,
Dave :)


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[Golden Earring]

Now listening to Neil Young's Pono re-master of Harvest, native
24bit/192kHz but down-sampled by Logitech Media Server to accommodate
the Transporter's maximum bit rate of 24/96. It's very clean.

Of course MQA encoding could package this losslessly into 24/96 (or
less)...

Just having fun,
Dave :D


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[Fizbin]

> However the main reason for posting again is to relate that I have just
> today received a Mytek Brooklyn DAC which I got for a substantial
> discount bidding in an eBay auction. Just like my dear departed Mum I do
> love a bargain...

Well, so much for the Transporter being a bargain. :)


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[Golden Earring]

Fizbin wrote:
> Well, so much for the Transporter being a bargain. :)

I'm using the Transporter to feed the new DAC. There aren't many digital
sources with pro-grade balanced outputs and word clock inputs.

I still think the unused Transporters are a steal at 499.99USD. And
there are now only 6 left, so some people presumably agree with me...

All the best,
Dave


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[cliveb]

Golden Earring wrote:
> I'm using the Transporter to feed the new DAC. There aren't many digital
> sources with pro-grade balanced outputs and word clock inputs.
You do realise that AES balanced digital I/O was just a kludge to enable
studios to use their existing stock of XLR cables? The designer of the
Transporter (Sean Adams) has stated that the BNC SPDIF output is
actually superior. Just a heads up in case you're interested.



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[Wombat]

Sean Adams wasn't femto back then.



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[Golden Earring]

Wombat wrote:
> Sean Adams wasn't femto back then.

I'm not actually sure that I am now - how are you supposed to tell? :D


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[Golden Earring]

cliveb wrote:
> You do realise that AES balanced digital I/O was just a kludge to enable
> studios to use their existing stock of XLR cables? The designer of the
> Transporter (Sean Adams) has stated that the BNC SPDIF output is
> actually superior. Just a heads up in case you're interested.

The Mytek has a full range of digital inputs, so I'll get other "cheapo"
pro--grade cable from Canford Audio & check this out. Thanks for the
tip!

Btw, does anyone know what happened to Sean? I know he used to post on
this forum quite often until the Logitech takeover, although I did note
that he didn't take many prisoners when refuting b/s...

Best regards,
Dave :)


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[Golden Earring]

cliveb wrote:
> You do realise that AES balanced digital I/O was just a kludge to enable
> studios to use their existing stock of XLR cables? The designer of the
> Transporter (Sean Adams) has stated that the BNC SPDIF output is
> actually superior. Just a heads up in case you're interested.

On reflection, since I'm using the DAC as the master clock, I'm not sure
it's actually going to matter which link-up I use, unless you think the
AES out is actually going to lose some of the 0's and/or 1's...

Might try it later to test out my "golden ears" - if only it wasn't for
the tinnitus, LOL


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[Golden Earring]

Golden Earring wrote:
> On reflection, since I'm using the DAC as the master clock, I'm not sure
> it's actually going to matter which link-up I use, unless you think the
> AES out is actually going to lose some of the 0's and/or 1's...
>
> Might try it later to test out my "golden ears" - if only it wasn't for
> the tinnitus, LOL

I'm not actually a Golden Earring fan, just for the sake of clarity, but
I've been waiting for an opportunity to make the "golden ears" plus
tinnitus gag since I chose my forum name. It's not intended to
disrespect anyone who actually has tinnitus which I realise is a serious
and debilitating medical condition, it's a dig at those folk who claim
to have those "golden ears" which enable them to hear things mere
mortals can't: I'm 62, I don't have them for sure!

Dave :cool:


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[Wombat]

Golden Earring wrote:
> I'm not actually a Golden Earring fan, just for the sake of clarity, but
> I've been waiting for an opportunity to make the "golden ears" plus
> tinnitus gag since I chose my forum name...
:)
It is often the retired old men in their 70s having to much time and
love themself posting long stories of how high bitrate and less ringing
at high samplerates is so much better. Lately i realized one very
stubburn person posting in different forums is 75 years old with sound
panels that max out below 20kHz. The claims follow pretty much the
marketing speech or the words of other old men writing in the audiophile
press these days. He must have build strong believes over the years.
There are many it seems.



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[Golden Earring]

Wombat wrote:
> :)
> It is often the retired old men in their 70s having to much time and
> love themself posting long stories of how high bitrate and less ringing
> at high samplerates is so much better. Lately i realized one very
> stubburn person posting in different forums is 75 years old with sound
> panels that max out below 20kHz. The claims follow pretty much the
> marketing speech or the words of other old men writing in the audiophile
> press these days. He must have build strong believes over the years.
> There are many it seems.

I doubt that my HF hearing limit is anywhere near 20kHz at age 62!

But I do try to stay as open-minded as possible, and usually find the
company of my adult daughters' friends preferable to the majority of my
own generation. I try to keep learning new stuff, it takes my mind off
the discomfort of my arthritic spine...

On a lighter note, a big plus for Bowers & Wilkins Customer Service:
they've just turned around the repair of the PV1 subwoofer I bought
s/hand in 2009 in less than a week from my receipt of appropriate
packaging from them (couldn't fit the original box in the boot of my
MX-5) to next day collection of the loaded package back to them, fixing
it & couriering it back to me, all for their minimum out-of-warranty
charge of £110. They have already sent me two new 5m speaker level
cables with their weird (RJ45?) connectors attached at no cost. I don't
think I can complain about that, given the money I've saved by buying
s/hand in the first place.

Although I sincerely doubt that I'll be able to detect any stereo
soundstage at the frequencies they handle (they're configured to fit in
with the -6dB mechanical roll-off of my 805S stand-mounts), having two
subwoofers in different positions should definitely improve the speaker
to room interaction, and each one should on average only be driven half
as hard so hopefully they'll last longer. And it's going to look a lot
prettier to have one at the base of each stand rather than a single one
plonked on the floor mid-way between them. Happy days.

Dave :)


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My repaired PV1 arrived on schedule yesterday morning, accompanied by an
unusually grumpy UPS delivery man: after I thanked him for bringing it
to my (ground floor) flat & signed the electronic delivery
acknowledgement, I politely asked him if he'd mind putting in my lounge
for me, an additional distance of less than 6 metres, explaining that I
suffered from arthritis in my spine (the box weighed about 21kg). His
response was "yeah, and I've had 2 heart attacks!". Slightly nonplussed,
I offered to share the load with him. At this point he just grabbed the
box off the floor outside my door and barged past me towards the lounge.
I just had time to tell him to put it on my sofa, which he did, and then
he stormed off. I still haven't quite figured out if he was having a pop
at my disability, or was really putting himself at risk of a further
heart attack by doing a heavy manual job! It takes all sorts...

Anyway, a friend called by later who helped me unpack it, and also held
my flashlight above the corner unit my gear lives on & in, beneath my TV
which can be manoeuvred flush against one wall thanks to a double arm
bracket. This enabled me to reach through the bottom shelf of the
cabinet and hook up 2 new 3m mains leads for the new subwoofer
positions. I did have to move a couple of low wattage items onto a 2-way
adaptor to free up two adjacent outlets on my primary 8-way anti-surge
board, and the exercise was basically accomplished by me lying prone and
feeling my way around at full stretch having first established the
arrangement I wanted. When I first rigged it up I had all the cables
tidy but as you add leads for this and that you inevitably begin to
create a Gordian Knot! So I had to pick my way through the maze as
sightless as Samson.

Got the main objective achieved after a bit of a struggle and rested a
while up to let my body recover. After half an hour, I powered the whole
system back up only to discover that I'd inadvertently dislodged the
feed to my secondary board. Accepting that fate was not totally with me,
I powered everything down again and did a second grovelling stint. It
wasn't too bad, and I secured the wayward connector fairly quickly,
still working by feel. Although it was awkward, it was much easier than
pulling the heavy unit away from the corner and then endeavouring to
slide it back into place without dislodging or trapping the myriad of
connections. Everything worked again on second power-up, so all I did
then was disconnect the working sub-woofer (which I had jerry-rigged
just to check that it worked when the seller brought it over, using the
flying mains point I sometimes use to connect my laptop into my system)
roll it away, and roll in the repaired one and reconnect. Simples! B&W
had done their magic and the repaired is good as new. Spheroid
sub-woofers rule, OK!

It was at this point I collapsed in my sofa planning to finish the job
today, i.e. stripping back the bare ends of Ken's new cables, attaching
my double screw banana plugs to the appropriate ends and taping up the
two surplus wires on each, rolling the subwoofers to their new
locations, connecting them up, and then the fettling. It all seemed so
feasible.

THEN I woke up this morning feeling like I'd been run-over by a
steamroller. Took PRN painkillers at about 5:30am, and spent 90 minutes
being grumpy with the cat whilst struggling to deal with my basic needs
and her more extensive and persistent demands. Took another 60mg Codeine
+ 4mg Diazepam about 6:15am since no real improvement. At 7am, the penny
dropped - I had missed the previous night's 300mg (max) dose of
Pregabalin (it's a neuropathic painkiller), not to mention my
Semi-Sodium Valproate mood-stabilisers (I apologise if I'm coming across
as slightly mad today... ;)). My conclusion is that neuropathic
biochemistry is a more sure-fire bet than acoustic neuroscience! A
suspect that several forum members will concur...

So a quiet/noisy but restful day today. Stereo subwoofer installation
postponed until manyana.

Dave :rolleyes:


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[garym]

Golden Earring wrote:
> My conclusion is that neuropathic biochemistry is a more sure-fire bet
> than acoustic neuroscience! A suspect that several forum members will
> concur...

;););)



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[Golden Earring]

Hi all.

Pain meds have now kicked back in, so no need to overdo the opiates
today! Hopefully a little less crazy to boot...

Rigged up my 2 new speaker-level cables to achieve full stereo
separation on my PV1 subwoofers, and rolled them around so they're
sitting at the foot of my 805S stands. This looks much prettier, enables
me to hide the wiring, and it worked first time. Bonus ball!

I'm now listening to a very clean 24 bit 96kHz FLAC file of Hendrix'
Electric Ladyland. I still have the original vinyl double album with the
contentious artwork. The nice ladies who agreed to pose au naturel in
return for some dosh were apparently not at all taken with the strong
green tint applied to the resulting photograph for the original LP
release! The totally PC replacement cover that was quietly substituted
long ago is sadly very bland indeed.

Oh, and yes, I know that the master tapes for this recording are
analogue, but they are 2" wide and fly past the tape heads at a fair
lick (at least 15"/sec, probably 30). That results in considerable
dynamic range above the tape hiss, which I suspect has anyway been
magically spirited away by the digital mastering engineer because I
can't hear it at all. I don't think my hearing has got that bad yet.
Btw, the band's instruments were analogue too, FWIW.

Returning to the PV1's, having two sub-woofers in play has certainly
improved the room interface, although I still have some acoustic
panelling in my mind. You can get them with any artwork you want printed
on them: I rather like Rothko's stuff (and admire his effrontery when
exclusive NY restaurants started buying them up, thus denying access to
the hoi-polloi), but I think the rhythmic essence of Jackson Pollock's
abstracts and the proportions of his canvases may be more appropriate
for my walls. I'll have to settle for plain panels on ceiling however,
since they don't offer a mirrored finish ;).

In addition, I'm rather surprised that the low frequency soundstage IS
better with the true stereo wiring. This is probably because the -6db LF
point of my 805S's is quite high at 42Hz, and of course the PV1s'
crossovers will make them function to some extent at higher frequencies
than that to flatten out the roll-off of my stand-mounts. The effect
would probably not be so pronounced for those with larger floor-standing
loudspeakers crossing over to subwoofer(s) at a lower frequency. Anyway,
I'm happy, and Jimi & Co are still rocking-out merrily. With four agile
8" metal cones having a greater combined surface area greater than a
single 15" speaker, and 1000W of Class D amplification to drive them,
they really do sound the business.

Hope you're all having the pleasant musical weekend of your choice.

Dave :cool:


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[StephenPG]

Golden Earring wrote:
>
>
> Oh, and yes, I know that the master tapes for this recording are
> analogue, but they are 2" wide and fly past the tape heads at a fair
> lick (at least 15"/sec, probably 30). That results in considerable
> dynamic range above the tape hiss, which I suspect has anyway been
> magically spirited away by the digital mastering engineer because I
> can't hear it at all. I don't think my hearing has got that bad yet.
> Btw, the band's instruments were analogue too, FWIW.


So about 13 bit then... probably less.

https://youtu.be/cIQ9IXSUzuM


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[Golden Earring]

Fizbin wrote:
> The seller hotdogtec has way more than 4, trust me. His auctions have
> shown 4 left (for all four Transporter styles) for the past three years.

Hi Fizbin!

Roger that.

However, it is the other eBay seller "onlyonedeal" that I got my 2 units
from & have the inside line on.

They also have "adjusted" their stock levels in the past but AFAIK have
never waited until they got down to 2 units left before doing so which
makes me suspect that this time they are really getting low. They led
the price reduction earlier this year & have been accepting offers for
most of their recent sales which looks to me as though they have made
their turn on the end-of-line stock they bought in bulk from Logitech &
appear to be wrapping up the protracted process of retailing them
one-by-one.

As mentioned, I would suggest anyone considering making an offer gets in
touch with me by PM first...

Obviously we all have our own opinions about these matters but it seems
to me that large corporations are rich enough already & that governments
do not necessarily use the monies they collect in particularly sensible
ways so I don't feel any particular urge to assist them further. Not
sure why I mentioned that it's a bit off-topic, isn't it? :rolleyes:

Dave :cool:


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[Golden Earring]

Golden Earring wrote:
> ... it is the other eBay seller "onlyonedeal" that I got my *-2-* units
> from & have the inside line on.
>
> They also have "adjusted" their stock levels in the past but AFAIK have
> never waited until they got down to 2 units left before doing so which
> makes me suspect that this time they are really getting low. They led
> the price reduction round on eBay earlier this year (reduction of $150
> in asking price) & have been accepting offers for most of their recent
> sales which looks to me as though they have made their turn on the
> end-of-line stock they bought in bulk from Logitech & appear to be
> wrapping up the protracted process of retailing them one-by-one.
>
> As mentioned, I would suggest anyone considering making an offer gets in
> touch with me by PM first...

Hi all!

As predicted, this vendor has now sold all their units.

You're on your own now!

Dave :)


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[Fizbin]

Plenty of units left here for the foreseeable future...


http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-IN-BOX-Logitech-Transporter-SE-Network-Music-Player-Without-Transnav-Knob-/161870947854?hash=item25b042a60e:g:6QUAAOSw9mFWLvKR

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-LIMITED-EDITION-Logitech-Transporter-SE-Network-Music-Player-silver-buttons-/161449523841?hash=item2597243a81:g:EHMAAOSw1x1UOvhg

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-SPECIAL-EDITION-Logitech-Transporter-SE-Network-Music-Player-black-buttons-/161467812078?hash=item25983b48ee:g:iDcAAOSwF1dUUcfT

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-LIMITED-EDITION-Logitech-Transporter-SE-Network-Music-Player-ssilver-buttons-/162326990310?hash=item25cb714de6:g:OeQAAOSwLpdW9xbm


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[VFRBOB]

Fizbin wrote:
> Plenty of units left here, for the foreseeable future...
>
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-IN-BOX-Logitech-Transporter-SE-Network-Music-Player-Without-Transnav-Knob-/161870947854?hash=item25b042a60e:g:6QUAAOSw9mFWLvKR
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-LIMITED-EDITION-Logitech-Transporter-SE-Network-Music-Player-silver-buttons-/161449523841?hash=item2597243a81:g:EHMAAOSw1x1UOvhg
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-SPECIAL-EDITION-Logitech-Transporter-SE-Network-Music-Player-black-buttons-/161467812078?hash=item25983b48ee:g:iDcAAOSwF1dUUcfT
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-LIMITED-EDITION-Logitech-Transporter-SE-Network-Music-Player-ssilver-buttons-/162326990310?hash=item25cb714de6:g:OeQAAOSwLpdW9xbm

For US $9,499.99 !! not on your nelly !!!


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[Fizbin]

The seller (Hotdogtec) does this when he goes on vacation. He doesn't
want to take down his auctions so he inflates the price so no one buys.
All his inventory (even a mouse) is currently like this and it's the 3rd
time he's done this in two years.

Trust me, in a week or so it will be back to normal price. A lot of
sellers on ebay do this.

BTW, you'll notice a lot of people are going to suddenly inflate the
price of their used Transporters. This happened the last time Hotdogtec
went away.


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[Fizbin]

This was my email to him last year...

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hotdogtec is back. (With normal prices)


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[ralphpnj]

Fizbin wrote:
> hotdogtec is back. (With normal prices)

Thanks!

A "NEW IN BOX Logitech Transporter SE Network Music Player (Without
Transnav Knob)" is now on it's way to my home!



Living Rm: Transporter-SimAudio pre/power amps-Vandersteen 3A Sign. &
sub
Home Theater: Touch-Marantz HTR-Energy Veritas 2.1 & Linn sub
Computer Rm: Touch-Headroom Desktop w/DAC-Aragon amp-Energy Veritas 2.1
& Energy sub
Bedroom: Touch-HR Desktop w/DAC-Audio Refinement amp-Energy Veritas 2.0
Guest Rm: Duet-Sony soundbar
Garage: SB3-JVC compact system
Controls: iPeng; SB Controller; Moose & Muso
Server: LMS 7.9 on dedicated windows 10 computer w/2 Drobos
'Last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/jazzfann/)
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[didjean]

hi there,

Always have dreamt to get an original Transporter (not the SE one)... I
have just bought a second hand 7yo Transporter for 450 EUR. It should
arrive soon home.

Now, is this expensive and will it worth its price?

I currently have a Touch linked digitally to a Cambridge Audio DAC
linked analog to my amp.
Am I upgrading my system? Will I hear a difference hooking the
Transporter to my Amp via analog cables?

Thx for your feedback!



Touch + Cambridge Audio 651R & DAC Magic + Q Acoustics Concept 40 ---
Touch + Onkyo TX-SR309 + Morel Applause MKII --- SB2, SB3, and Duet ---
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[garym]

didjean wrote:
> hi there,
>
> Always have dreamt to get an original Transporter (not the SE one)... I
> have just bought a second hand 7yo Transporter for 450 EUR. It should
> arrive soon home.
>
> Now, is this expensive and will it worth its price?
>
> I currently have a Touch linked digitally to a Cambridge Audio DAC
> linked analog to my amp.
> Am I upgrading my system? Will I hear a difference hooking the
> Transporter to my Amp via analog cables?
>
> Thx for your feedback!

You'll enjoy the Transporter. I have two (one backup in storage). It's
a nice piece of equipment with a good DAC.



*Home:* VortexBox 4TB (2.3) > LMS 7.9 > Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio
(all ethernet)
*Cottage:* VBA 3TB (2.3) > LMS 7.9 > Touch > Benchmark DAC I, Boom,
Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio)
*Office:* Win8(64) > LMS 7.9 > Squeezelite
*Spares:* Transporter, Touch(3), Radio(3), Boom, SB3, CONTROLLER
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SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win8(64) laptop
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[Fizbin]

didjean wrote:
> hi there,
>
> Always have dreamt to get an original Transporter (not the SE one)... I
> have just bought a second hand 7yo Transporter for 450 EUR. It should
> arrive soon home.
>
> Now, is this expensive and will it worth its price?
>
> I currently have a Touch linked digitally to a Cambridge Audio DAC
> linked analog to my amp.
> Am I upgrading my system? Will I hear a difference hooking the
> Transporter to my Amp via analog cables?
>
> Thx for your feedback!

The Transporter is above and beyond the Touch as far as sonics are
concerned. And I'm not one of those whimsical, voodoo, higher-end is
better kind of people. (In fact, I really wanted my Touch to win the
shootout...I much preferred its low profile and GUI)


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[Golden Earring]

didjean wrote:
> Always have dreamt to get an original Transporter (not the SE one)... I
> have just bought a second hand 7yo Transporter for 450 EUR. It should
> arrive soon home.
>
> Now, is this expensive and will it worth its price?

Hi didjean!

I still have a Slim Devices branded Transporter which I bought off eBay
in 2009 for about £800 - it could be as much as 12 years old now, I've
used it extensively most days for the last 8 years & the sound quality
is indistinguishable from an unused SE model I got from the US earlier
this year (for about £540 delivered).

I've also recently bought a s/hand Logitech branded "with knob"
Transporter off eBay in the UK for about £450 this year, so I would say
that you got a good enough deal.

I think that you'll like it. Enjoy!

Dave :)


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[Golden Earring]

didjean wrote:
> I am now a happy owner of a Transporter. This represents the Icing on
> the cake on my Squeezebox collection of devices :-).
> I only tried it for an hour. This is definitely good compared to my
> Touch and Cambridge DACMagic :-).
> Can't wait to be back home to further test... :-)

Hi didjean!

How are you getting on with your Transporter?

I recently collected the one I bought off eBay 3 months ago, after
finally getting my sports car back on its wheels - & just in time, as it
turned out, the vendors were moving to Texas for 2 years at the end of
the week & letting out their UK home!

They did seem like nice folks, so I'll put them not telling me about any
of this down to their being fiercely busy - I did wonder what would have
happened to it though: I'd paid in full when I won the auction so it was
legally my property...

No matter! I've got it now, & having successfully married off my #1
daughter last Saturday (my younger one got married in 2016) & also
having somewhat recovered from the sheer emotional relief of not being
primarily responsible for either of them now after only 30 years, I
finally hooked it up today.

Needless to say it works perfectly on both digital & analogue outputs &
sounds indistinguishable from the 2 unused SE's I bought from the US
earlier this year (which will shortly be heading off to my daughters'
gaffs) & the even older Slim Devices branded one which I bought s/hand
off eBay in 2009 & have used more or less daily ever since.

Dave :cool:


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[ralphpnj]

ralphpnj wrote:
> Thanks!
>
> A "NEW IN BOX Logitech Transporter SE Network Music Player (Without
> Transnav Knob)" is now on it's way to my home!

Well the Transporter arrived a few weeks ago and has been operating
flawlessly in my system since its arrival. I also upgraded my wi-fi
router and so far so good. With the new router in place just about all
of those annoying wi-fi glitches that reek havoc on one's media
streaming are gone except for the microwave interferring with 24 bit and
greater than 48kHz file playback.

And as an added bonus I managed to get an all black Transporter which
matches the other black components in my system much better than the
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sub
Home Theater: Touch-Marantz HTR-Energy Veritas 2.1 & Linn sub
Computer Rm: Touch-Headroom Desktop w/DAC-Aragon amp-Energy Veritas 2.1
& Energy sub
Bedroom: Touch-HR Desktop w/DAC-Audio Refinement amp-Energy Veritas 2.0
Guest Rm: Duet-Sony soundbar
Garage: SB3-JVC compact system
Controls: iPeng; SB Controller; Moose & Muso
Server: LMS 7.9 on dedicated windows 10 computer w/2 Drobos
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[Golden Earring]

ralphpnj wrote:
> Well the Transporter arrived a few weeks ago and has been operating
> flawlessly in my system since its arrival. I also upgraded my wi-fi
> router and so far so good. With the new router in place just about all
> of those annoying wi-fi glitches that reek havoc on one's media
> streaming are gone except for the microwave interferring with 24 bit and
> greater than 48kHz file playback.
>
> And as an added bonus I managed to get an all black Transporter which
> matches the other black components in my system much better than the
> silver Transporter.

Hi Ralph!

Your kit looks very tidy - I prefer the all-black colour scheme myself &
actually have the display blank out completely after a short delay from
using the remote: I have a couple of synced Touches near my listening
position (but out of my eye-line) to display album art & current track
details if I turn my head to look.

Would it be impractical for you to use a wired Ethernet connection to
your router? I have both my Synology NAS (running LMS under Linux) & my
Transporter wired into my router & it is a more robust &
interference-resistant option than the admittedly convenient Wi-Fi.

Obviously this may not be practical if your router is in a different
room or if your significant other hates cables (which in my own
experience appears to be an almost universal phenomenon... ;) ).

Dave :cool:


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[ralphpnj]

Golden Earring wrote:
> Hi Ralph!
>
> Your kit looks very tidy - I prefer the all-black colour scheme myself &
> actually have the display blank out completely after a short delay from
> using the remote: I have a couple of synced Touches near my listening
> position (but out of my eye-line) to display album art & current track
> details if I turn my head to look.
>
> Would it be impractical for you to use a wired Ethernet connection to
> your router? I have both my Synology NAS (running LMS under Linux) & my
> Transporter wired into my router & it is a more robust &
> interference-resistant option than the admittedly convenient Wi-Fi.
>
> Obviously this may not be practical if your router is in a different
> room or if your significant other hates cables (which in my own
> experience appears to be an almost universal phenomenon... ;) ).
>
> Dave :cool:

I totally agree with you about wi-fi versus wired unfortunately both my
Transporter and one SB Touch located in the bedroom are not in an area
of my home that I can easily run Ethernet cables. I much prefer using
wired Ethernet whenever possible since it provides for "a more robust &
interference-resistant" experience. Maybe this autumn I will spend some
time in the crawl space of my house running Ethernet cable to these two
rooms.



Living Rm: Transporter-SimAudio pre/power amps-Vandersteen 3A Sign. &
sub
Home Theater: Touch-Marantz HTR-Energy Veritas 2.1 & Linn sub
Computer Rm: Touch-Headroom Desktop w/DAC-Aragon amp-Energy Veritas 2.1
& Energy sub
Bedroom: Touch-HR Desktop w/DAC-Audio Refinement amp-Energy Veritas 2.0
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Garage: SB3-JVC compact system
Controls: iPeng; SB Controller; Moose & Muso
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[RonM]

I have a Transporter in my what was in theory my main location, wired
via ethernet to the router. I also have a Touch in a secondary listening
location, which turns out to be used as much as the Transporter. The
Touch uses wifi.

I've noticed absolutely no difference in reliability of the connection.
No microwave interference, which is undoubtedly at least partly because
the microwave is some distance from the touch. But i've also used wifi
for listening to the system through my mobile, just a few feet from the
microwave, and haven't noticed any problems there either.

As to sound quality of the connection, differences in hardware aside,
bits are bits, as they say/

R.



LMS on a dedicated server (FitPC3)
Transporter (Ethernet) - main listening, Onkyo receiver, Paradigm
speakers
Touch (WiFi) - home theater 5.1, Sony receiver, Energy speakers
Boom 1 (WiFi) - work-space
Boom 2 (WiFi) - various (deck, garage, etc.)
Radio (WiFi) - home office
Control - Squeeze Control (Android mobile), 2 Controllers (seldom used),
Squeeze Remote (on Surface Pro 4)
Touch x 1 - spare
UE Radio x 1 - spare
Boom x 1 - spare
Controller x 1 - Spare
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[Golden Earring]

RonM wrote:
> I have a Transporter in my what was in theory my main location, wired
> via ethernet to the router. I also have a Touch in a secondary listening
> location, which turns out to be used as much as the Transporter. The
> Touch uses wifi.
>
> I've noticed absolutely no difference in reliability of the connection.
> No microwave interference, which is undoubtedly at least partly because
> the microwave is some distance from the touch. But i've also used wifi
> for listening to the system through my mobile, just a few feet from the
> microwave, and haven't noticed any problems there either.
>
> As to sound quality of the connection, differences in hardware aside,
> bits are bits, as they say/
>
> R.

Hi Ron!

For many years, I used my Windows laptop (on a Wi-Fi link) as my LMS
driver with my music files on a 2TB external drive plugged into one of
its USB ports. I also used the Wi-Fi option on my Transporter (which
admittedly is within a couple of feet on my router). I too experienced
no reliability problems & no interference from my microwave or anything
else.

It was only when I acquired my Synology NAS (which does have Wi-Fi, & is
also positioned only about 3 feet from my router) that I switched to
Ethernet & thought that I might as well connect my Transporter the same
way. I've used the other 2 Ethernet ports on my router for my Panasonic
DMR-BWT800 Blu-Ray Disc Recorder & my 46" Sony Bravia TV both of which
support 3D, an effect I find very effective & am sorry to see being
abandoned in the year-on-year marketing frenzy! At least a reasonable
number of 3D Blu-Ray discs are available & they are now reasonably
affordable since it's no longer the current fad. Frankly the internet
connection on my TV is now practically useless (the BBC have even
stopped supporting its iPlayer app!) so I'm going to abandon it
altogether (Wi-Fi was a typically expensive Sony add-on which I didn't
buy... ) & use that port for a 2010-vintage 27" iMac which I recently
acquired. My PS3 (which is also right by the router) works perfectly
well on Wi-Fi & still has a working iPlayer app. Obviously the Panasonic
gizmo & the PS3 are connected via HDMI to the TV. My Epson printer is
rock solid on Wi-Fi also, that's about 10 feet away from the router, but
still at the far end of my lounge.

I suspect that the critical factors are the quality of the router (&
your microwave!) & the proximity of your kit to the router & of both to
potential sources of interference, taking account of any solid internal
walls between. I have my supplied fibre-optic Virgin Media router
switched to modem-only mode with a decent dual-band Netgear router wired
into it. There is a solid breeze-block wall between my lounge & my
kitchen, & my gear & my metal-cased Panasonic microwave are at the
opposite ends of their respective rooms from each other, probably around
30 feet apart (with the wall in-between).

Incidentally, I would strongly recommend Ralph to pay a keen young chap
to do the crawling in his loft-space: the needles from the glass-fibre
roof insulation get into your skin & can only be effectively removed by
a prolonged cold shower. If you use warm water, they simply get further
into your pores! Just saying...

Dave :cool:


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Golden Earring wrote:
> Incidentally, I would strongly recommend Ralph to pay a keen young chap
> to do the crawling in his loft-space: the needles from the glass-fibre
> roof insulation get into your skin & can only be effectively removed by
> a prolonged cold shower. If you use warm water, they simply get further
> into your pores! Just saying...

No worries since the cable will be run in a crawl space below the main
floor of the house and not in the attic, aka loft space, above the main
floor.

And I stand by my assertion that a wired connection, aka Ethernet, beats
a wireless connection, aka Wi-Fi, for any and all purposes, any day.



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[bluetdi]

How about using Powerline-adapters, for example Netgear?
I use 6 of them instead of ethernet cables all over the house for years
now and they work flawlessly. The better ones nowadays have an AC
outlet, speed up to 1200Mbit, powersaving and 2 Gigabit ports. Solves
all the problems with rooms that are out of reach. Just plug one in,
sync with the master and put them where you need it. The WiFi-adapters
also replace bridges when you want another hotspot in the cellar or
garden or where is bad reception for your iPad. Only drawback: they
constantly draw some current.



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[Julf]

bluetdi wrote:
> Only drawback: they constantly draw some current.

And put a lot of HF noise into the mains.



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[Golden Earring]

ralphpnj wrote:
> No worries since the cable will be run in a crawl space below the main
> floor of the house and not in the attic, aka loft space, above the main
> floor.
>
> And I stand by my assertion that a wired connection, aka Ethernet, beats
> a wireless connection, aka Wi-Fi, for any and all purposes, any day.

Hi Ralph!

Glad to hear that you won't need the cold showers! They used to make my
friend Mick, the plumber, *-really-* grumpy (& he could be a belligerent
sod at times too, lol) - it was best to keep out of his way for a day
after he'd been working in someone's attic ;) .

We're agreed that Ethernet is more robust than Wi-Fi, but if in a given
situation the Wi-Fi consistently delivers all the required 0's & 1's in
a sufficiently timely manner as it did in my former set-up for years, it
is not then inferior. And my significant other in those days had this
*-thing-* about cables...

All I'm saying is that Wi-Fi has its uses - like avoiding divorce
proceedings :rolleyes: .

Dave :cool:


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[Julf]

ralphpnj wrote:
> And I stand by my assertion that a wired connection, aka Ethernet, beats
> a wireless connection, aka Wi-Fi, for any and all purposes, any day.

I think that is a bit too much of an absolutist statement. If wifi
provides enough reliable bandwidth, the portability it provides is a
major asset - so for music at a garden party, Wifi beats a wired
connection any (sunny) day.



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[arnyk]

Julf wrote:
> I think that is a bit too much of an absolutist statement. If wifi
> provides enough reliable bandwidth, the portability it provides is a
> major asset - so for music at a garden party, Wifi beats a wired
> connection any (sunny) day.

I'm reminded of the light-hearted statement: "All generalizations are
false, even this one." ;-)

Not everybody has the problem, but wireless connections can very
resistant to grounding problems.

Personal audio sourced via a LAN is pretty darn inconvenient if wired.


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[ralphpnj]

With everything being said about Ethernet versus wi-fi I must confess
that I have been using my Transporter via wi-fi as my main music source
for my "big rig" for over 10 years so I guess that wi-fi does work
pretty darn good even with the occasional microwave interference :)



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[Golden Earring]

ralphpnj wrote:
> With everything being said about Ethernet versus wi-fi I must confess
> that I have been using my Transporter via wi-fi as my main music source
> for my "big rig" for over 10 years so I guess that wi-fi does work
> pretty darn good even with the occasional microwave interference :)

Ralph, do you have your Transporter *-inside-* your microwave?? ;)

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[ralphpnj]

Golden Earring wrote:
> Ralph, do you have your Transporter *-inside-* your microwave?? ;)
>
> Dave :cool:

Only when listening to this:


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& Energy sub
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ralphpnj wrote:
> Only when listening to this:

Cool!

Dave :cool:


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[Mnyb]

Replace the micro , only bad ones leak rf , they are usually better than
that .



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[Golden Earring]

Mnyb wrote:
> Replace the micro , only bad ones leak rf , they are usually better than
> that .

I totally agree with that!

In any event leaky microwaves are a health hazard.

Panasonic make good ones, no need for turntable + metal casing. Had mine
for about 7 years now, no problems with it...

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[Golden Earring]

Hi all!

Just a quick update - there are now only 6 of these beasties left for
sale on eBay.com, & although the suppliers have "topped up" their
numbers for sale in the past (obviously they "find" more units at the
back of their warehouses :D ), they've tended to do it before their
stocks got so low so I suspect these stock levels are now genuine. The
vendor I bought from has 2 left, & a second vendor has 4. They're both
asking $499.99 plus shipping & they're both open to offers.

Please bear in mind that if you don't live in the US, you are likely to
be liable for import duties & your own country's sales tax/value added
tax on top.

I would highly recommend that any prospective buyer PM me before
proceeding...

Dave :cool:


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[Golden Earring]

StephenPG wrote:
> So about 13 bit then... probably less.
>
> https://youtu.be/cIQ9IXSUzuM

Morning Stephen!

I probably shouldn't mention Cynthia "Plaster-Caster" in the context of
Mr Hendrix "bits" but in any event I was under the impression :rolleyes:
that it's not what you've got so much as what you can do with it!

No recorded complaints about Jimi AFAIK...

Dave :D


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[Getgaff]

Ordered a NOS Transporter SE earlier this week from hotdogtec. My offer
was accepted and it's now here in the UK, just waiting for it to be
delivered.
Originally had the TransNav knob version, sold it last year and
regretted it. Absolutely don't need a Transporter what with owning a
SBT/iFi SPDIF iPurifier combo and a Auralic Altair, but WTH :D .


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[Golden Earring]

Getgaff wrote:
> Ordered a NOS Transporter SE earlier this week from hotdogtec. My offer
> was accepted and it's now here in the UK, just waiting for it to be
> delivered.
> Originally had the TransNav knob version, sold it last year and
> regretted it. Absolutely don't need a Transporter what with owning a
> SBT/iFi SPDIF iPurifier combo and a Auralic Altair, but WTH :D .

Hi Getgaff!

Hope you're pleased with your Transporter SE when you receive it.

The 3.4% import duty on delivered price to UK (ie including all shipping
& insurance costs) & then VAT at 20% on top of all of that (including
the import duty!) is a bit of a pain but that's Great Britain for you!
Sales tax in California (from which you will have been exempt as an
export sale) is only 9% & they grumble about that. I'm old enough to
remember basic rate VAT at 8% (although luxury goods were fairly soon,
if not immediately - don't recall, charged at 15% & a gizmo like a
Transporter would I'm sure have qualified for the higher rate), then
15%, 17.5% & finally 20%. We're mugs to put up with it. Just to think
that William Gladstone, the 19th Century Whig prime minister actually
wanted to abolish income tax although he never achieved this aim...

Nevertheless, you still end up with a good deal considering that there
are no stocks of SE's left elsewhere & relative to the retail price
before Logitech axed the Squeezebox family (grrrr!). Once I'd got the
lie of the land I got a much better deal with my 2nd unused one :cool:.

I've still got my Slim Devices Trans-Sat knob Transporter which I bought
s/hand in the UK in 2009, & could well date as far back as 2005 - when I
hooked up the first of the 2 unused SE's I bought earlier this year from
San Jose, CA the sound was indistinguishable. Let's hope that the
quality control was as good for the SE's under Logitech's badging & that
they'll also be as good in 12 years time. TBH, I never used the fabled
knob, preferring the Windows GUI & the remote. I might sell my original
when all the unused ones are gone...

Dave :)


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[Kid Audio]

Hi,
Being that I'm not well versed with the Transporter what exactly does
the TransNav knob control and is it a major problem not having one.
Thanks for any info.

Kid Audio


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[Golden Earring]

Kid Audio wrote:
> Hi,
> Being that I'm not well versed with the Transporter what exactly does
> the TransNav knob control and is it a major problem not having one.
> Thanks for any info.
>
> Kid Audio

Morning Kid!

You can operate the original Transporter without using the TransNav
knob, either by using its remote control alone or in combination with
the Logitech Media Server graphical user interface. The later
Transporter SE simply had a circular blanking plate where the knob was
without losing functionality. The large central knob does look sexier
than the flush blanking plate however.

As knobs go, it's pretty unique. You can use it on its own to operate
the unit, to control its (digital) volume control, to navigate all menus
& sub-menus, & to scroll through your music collection - the selection
choice -*accelerates*- as you turn the knob faster. The push-button
function built into it allows you to make all your selections.

If you have your kit on open display & are as young (& therefore
presumably agile) as your avatar implies, you might like to use it,
although its utility is reduced somewhat if you have a large library of
recordings because the search function (& playlist compilation) is
handled more easily through the software GUI.

As a piece of ergonomic design it's very clever. As the only mechanical
component of a now unsupported unit it is an obvious potential failure
point - nevertheless, the knob on the (then Slim Devices branded)
Transporter I own which probably dates from 2005/6 (I bought it s/hand
in 2009) still works perfectly.

Hope that helps.

Dave :)


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[cliveb]

Golden Earring wrote:
> As a piece of ergonomic design it's very clever. As the only mechanical
> component of a now unsupported unit it is an obvious potential failure
> point - nevertheless, the knob on the (then Slim Devices branded)
> Transporter I own which probably dates from 2005/6 (I bought it s/hand
> in 2009) still works perfectly.
As Dave says, the TP doesn't need the knob. I think I may have used the
knob on mine a couple of times just out of curiosity. The TP works just
fine via any of the other interface mechanisms (IR remote, Duet
controller, iPhone/Android apps, browser, etc).

Perhaps Dave's knob and mine still work simply because they haven't been
used. (Cue sniggering from the back). Actually, I don't know if the knob
on my TP still works because I can't remember the last time I touched
it.

Whether it's ergonomically clever is a matter of opinion. I think the
force feedback feels a bit weird, and the need to press one of the many
buttons on the front panel first to select what it controls makes the
whole interface seems a bit cobbled. It also baffles me why it doesn't
default to volume control, and why if you switch it to volume control it
then automatically reverts back to the default (I forget what the
default is, TBH).

But one thing thing that I feel isn't open to debate is the fact that
including it in the first place was a folly. It's not needed, is
probably the most most expensive single component on the device, and
presumably the code needed to operate it takes up precious memory in the
firmware that could have been put to better use. It was also the source
of irritating intermittent de-gaussing noises for some users (although
that never affected me - perhaps because I didn't use it and so it
didn't need de-gaussing?) Remove it and its associated buttons from the
front panel and the TP could have been considerably cheaper. (But then I
guess making it cheap would have defeated the object of positioning the
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[Golden Earring]

cliveb wrote:
> Whether it's ergonomically clever is a matter of opinion.

Morning Clive!

My opinion is actually that there are too many knobs in the world. :D

I have a strict rule that any gear of mine should have one at most, & if
I can disable the function of that one I am usually keen to do so...

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[Kid Audio]

Dave and Clive,
Thanks for the info. Very much appreciated.
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[Golden Earring]

cliveb wrote:
> It was also the source of irritating intermittent de-gaussing noises for
> some users (although that never affected me - perhaps because I didn't
> use it and so it didn't need de-gaussing?) Remove it and its associated
> buttons from the front panel and the TP could have been considerably
> cheaper. (But then I guess making it cheap would have defeated the
> object of positioning the TP as an audiophile device).

Hi Clive!

I've not had the de-gaussing noise issue either (I haven't played with
my knob much, I was warned off that sort of thing as an adolescent
:rolleyes: ), but would I be correct in assuming that it would have
affected the analogue rather than the digital processing stages in the
Transporter?

I can't remember how much cheaper than the original the Transporter SE
(without the TransNav gizmo) was at launch in the UK, have you any
recollection of that?

Dave :)


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[cliveb]

Golden Earring wrote:
> I've not had the de-gaussing noise issue either (I haven't played with
> my knob much, I was warned off that sort of thing as an adolescent
> :rolleyes: ), but would I be correct in assuming that it would have
> affected the analogue rather than the digital processing stages in the
> Transporter?
Since it never happened to me I don't know for sure, but my
understanding was that it was just a mechanical noise and it didn't
affect the audio outputs. The owner would be sitting quietly without the
TP even playing and they'd hear a "brrr" as the knob de-gaussed.

Golden Earring wrote:
> I can't remember how much cheaper than the original the Transporter SE
> (without the TransNav gizmo) was at launch in the UK, have you any
> recollection of that?
Sorry, no I don't recall the price of the SE in the UK. Whatever it was,
I clearly didn't think it was cheap enough to warrant buying one!

My feeling is that, nice as it was and still is, the TP is now a bit
anachronistic. If and when mine dies, it will be replaced with a
Raspberry Pi / HiFiBerry DIGI+ / External DAC with balanced outputs.



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[Golden Earring]

cliveb wrote:
> My feeling is that, nice as it was and still is, the TP is now a bit
> anachronistic. If and when mine dies...

Don't hold your breath - my oldest one which is badged "Slim Devices"
(Silver, with knob obviously) which I bought off a geezer in Soho
through fleaBay in 2009 (& probably dates from 2006-ish) sounded just as
good as an unused SE I bought from San Jose, CA a couple of months back
when I was checking the new one out.

I'm mildly over-stocked on them now, so might flog one on eBay, once the
stocks of unused ones finally sell out...

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[cliveb]

Golden Earring wrote:
> Don't hold your breath - my oldest one which is badged "Slim Devices"
> (Silver, with knob obviously) which I bought off a geezer in Soho
> through fleaBay in 2009 (& probably dates from 2006-ish) sounded just as
> good as an unused SE I bought from San Jose, CA a couple of months back
> when I was checking the new one out.
Yep. My Slim Devices branded TP is still going strong. I bought it in
December 2006.
Don't get me wrong - I don't want it to die, but if it does I won't try
and replace it with another TP - there are now cheaper alternatives that
will work just as well.



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[Golden Earring]

Apart from my laptop, my NAS, my DAC & my headphones, all my stuff dates
from the noughties. And that extends to my car (2002) & my DSLR camera
gear - & even my full HD 3D TV & 3D Twin Freeview HD HDD & Blu-ray
recorder (I have just had to buy a new Blu-ray drive for that, but I
have recorded a LOT of HD movies on BD-R discs so I can't really
complain about that) as well.

I think I must be getting nostalgically whimsical as I get older, the
advantages of more recent stuff just don't appear to be getting through
to me :D. Or am I just resistant to marketing hype?

Dave :)


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