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[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Hifiberry Digi+Pro + RPi3?
iPhone
2017-05-25 04:02:24 UTC
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I want to try this but how do I stream Tidal? Can the BubbleUPNP server
let me stream Tidal? Or other server?
I don't listen to any local files. Just streaming.
I have SBT as my streamer and I have no reason to replace it other than
to try something new.
I currently run the LMS via MaxPlay2 and RPi3. I am thinking if I can
make this all in one unit instead two. It may improve the sound?
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Sounds like you already have the solution.

A SB Touch and an LMS server is all you need for streaming. Best files
from Tidal are only Red Book CD as FLAC. A Digi + Pro isn't going to
improve the sound over the SB Touch when the source is only FLAC. Also
no reason to pay extra for the + Pro if you don't plan to do anything
other then streaming (streaming takes bandwidth so high HiRes files are
a long time off). The SB Touch is perfect for streaming plus the SB
Touch keeps the "Player/DAC" away from the server/computer. Just my two
cents.
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Julf
2017-05-26 07:07:42 UTC
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All of what you say would make sense if the OP were talking about the
Hifiberry DAC+.
But he's referring to the DIGI+, which is an SPDIF output board, which
would then be used to feed an external DAC.
Given the known flaws in the RPi's USB system, I think using a DIGI+ to
feed SPDIF to an external DAC may be preferable to using the RPi's USB
to feed a DAC.
That would make sense, except that the OP states "I thought that RPi3
with Digi+Pro would eliminate the connection of the SBT to the server
(RPi3) over the network. Thus, giving me better sound?", so it is all
about the network, not the connection to the DAC.



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fast-growing art of 'high fidelity' the quackery will bear a solid gilt
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cliveb
2017-05-26 13:34:59 UTC
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Post by Julf
That would make sense, except that the OP states "I thought that RPi3
with Digi+Pro would eliminate the connection of the SBT to the server
(RPi3) over the network. Thus, giving me better sound?", so it is all
about the network, not the connection to the DAC.
OK, sorry I missed the bit about the OP thinking that eliminating the
network link between player and server might improve the sound - which
of course it won't.

I was responding to iPhone's statement about having a DAC sitting on top
of an unshielded RPi.



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Julf
2017-05-26 07:10:09 UTC
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I thought that RPi3 with Digi+Pro would eliminate the connection of the
SBT to the server (RPi3) over the network. Thus, giving me better sound?
What makes you think it would? The network connection is a buffered,
bit-perfect path, and actually might pose less of a load on the RPi than
the USB connection. As long as you don't get bad network congestion,
resulting in clearly audible dropouts, the network doesn't affect the
sound.



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Julf
2017-05-25 06:56:10 UTC
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I thought keeping two units together all-in-one ( Digi Pro and
Raspberry) would be better than SBT connecting to Rpi3 via local
network.
No reason why it should be better - the higher clock rate processor in
the RPi probably generates more noise than the one in the SBT (for those
who worry about that).



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Man in a van
2017-05-25 20:15:27 UTC
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I want to try this but how do I stream Tidal? Can the BubbleUPNP server
let me stream Tidal? Or other server?
/QUOTE]
[INDENT]The answer to this is yes (code for 42) also Qobuz
'http://www.hifizine.com/2016/06/how-to-stream-tidal-to-the-raspberry-pi/
'
(http://www.hifizine.com/2016/06/how-to-stream-tidal-to-the-raspberry-pi/)
If you have the bits and bobs give it a try, let your ears decide if you
like it.
Ronnie
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HectorHughMunro
2017-09-03 10:59:17 UTC
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Sorry for missing out on the details.
Yes, I am using an older DAC with no USB and only up to 44.1 support.
Don't want to change my DAC. Just purchased and love it.
I thought that RPi3 with Digi+Pro would eliminate the connection of the
SBT to the server (RPi3) over the network. Thus, giving me better sound?
I have the Squeezebox Touch and moved to the RPI3 with Digi+ (not the
Pro). It's sonically a lot better though I wasn't particularly
expecting a change; I moved to the RPI because it was a better general
purpose solution that could cope better with a hard disk connected
directly to it.


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