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[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Peter Belt Morphic Link Paper Clips
andy_c
2016-09-05 22:01:10 UTC
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Thought you guys would get a kick out of this... :)

'_Peter_Belt_Morphic_Link_Paper_Clips_(PDF)_'
(http://www.pwbelectronics.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/PWB-Morphic-Link-Paper-Clips.pdf)


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SlimChances
2016-09-06 02:28:01 UTC
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Which brings into consideration an earlier PWB product – the
PWB
CCU safety pins i.e. specially ‘treated’ safety pins for
attaching to
curtains, carpets and upholstery. The CCU ‘treated’ safety
pins are
available in different sizes, with an especially large safety
pin (kilt
style) for thicker rugs or carpets.
I think Johnny Rotten was an early adopter of these , which might
explain a lot



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Mnyb
2016-09-06 05:08:07 UTC
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I remember this crap from way back ? Still around ?

Even the cable believing tube audiophiles laughed ? But really today ,
it thought he be surpassed by people with better and slicker marketing
that makes things sound semi plausible ?

And for the loony fringe of the loony fringe , we always have geof kart
of machine dynamics ( or what he calls it ) , so I thought PWB was
forgotten history .

Like some fellows that switched from oral galvanism to the more popular
allergy against electromagnetic fields ( I did not make that one up ,
some id this and still can't fathom that they may have another
problem(s) ) :D

People who are suckered to believe in foo stick to the currently popular
foo and switch all the time , again without connecting the dots.... Wow
, a pattern anyone ?



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Archimago
2016-09-06 06:10:07 UTC
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Post by Mnyb
I remember this crap from way back ? Still around ?
Even the cable believing tube audiophiles laughed ? But really today ,
it thought he be surpassed by people with better and slicker marketing
that makes things sound semi plausible ?
And for the loony fringe of the loony fringe , we always have geof kart
of machine dynamics ( or what he calls it ) , so I thought PWB was
forgotten history .
Like some fellows that switched from oral galvanism to the more popular
allergy against electromagnetic fields ( I did not make that one up ,
some id this and still can't fathom that they may have another
problem(s) ) :D
People who are suckered to believe in foo stick to the currently popular
foo and switch all the time , again without connecting the dots.... Wow
, a pattern anyone ?
Amazed that the Belts are still at this! I would have thought they'd
have retired by now.

The reality I believe is that we of course can never expect a day where
these kinds of strange beliefs and "believers" do not surface here are
there. I think in extreme cases like this and the Machina Dynamica
stuff, we are probably looking at shades of thought disorder which are
potentially delusional in nature if these people truly hold these claims
to be true. I would very much like to see a picture of the Belt's
soundroom and examine where they put the red crosses to deface logos,
paper clips to their album covers and books, and of course foils of all
sorts and colors on the equipment itself!

The best we can do is educate...



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Julf
2016-09-06 06:34:28 UTC
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Post by Archimago
The best we can do is educate...
The problem is that people like that are often also conspiracy theorists
(well, we all are, it is a fundamental trait of our brains that was
useful at some stage, but that gets overridden by rational thought in
most of us). Pointing out the facts to a conspiracy theorist actually
makes their belief stronger.



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fast-growing art of 'high fidelity' the quackery will bear a solid gilt
edge that will fool many people" - Paul W Klipsch, 1953
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Archimago
2016-09-07 15:45:42 UTC
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I browse Audio Asylum from time to time, and I saw this one on a forum
called "Isolation Ward" ("Iso"). :)
Once in a blue moon I get some good information from AA. I found out
about the 1jazz.ru group of Russian jazz stations from there and have
been listening to the 1jazz.ru hard bop station a ton lately.
Iso ward, eh? Well... Can't say there wasn't some level of insight I
suppose! I agree though, there are some useful nuggets on AA once
awhile.

Julf: I agree that there's no point pointing out facts to the conspiracy
theorists, it often drives them deeper into the systematized paranoid
delusional themes... These "true audiophile" guys seem to be
qualitatively different in that they don't seem paranoid as much. It's
more idiosyncratic thinking based on faulty fundamentals most of the
time mixed with neurotic anxiety-based uncertainty that the sound isn't
optimal - hence the need to tweak and "experiment" with all kinds of
stuff while not appreciating the limits of perception and cognition.

With a bit of effort and a graceful "way out", I have seen a few guys
come around to a more rational approach and eventually abandon the
bizarre. That's of course if anyone feels the need to be a "therapist"
in these cases :-).



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Julf
2016-09-08 06:00:19 UTC
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Post by Archimago
With a bit of effort and a graceful "way out", I have seen a few guys
come around to a more rational approach and eventually abandon the
bizarre. That's of course if anyone feels the need to be a "therapist"
in these cases :-).
True - offering a positive narrative that a) saves their face and b)
still provides meaning to their life is the key here. Just struggling
with what that would be, apart from "your gear is already more than good
enough, try looking at the actual source material".



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fast-growing art of 'high fidelity' the quackery will bear a solid gilt
edge that will fool many people" - Paul W Klipsch, 1953
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arnyk
2016-09-07 21:09:18 UTC
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Haha, where do you find this crap /s?
http://www.computeraudiophile.com/

Is IME good hunting grounds.


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Julf
2016-09-08 05:58:00 UTC
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Post by arnyk
http://www.computeraudiophile.com/
Is IME good hunting grounds.
I tend to avoid even posting a link to that site, as it really is a
major propagator of BS (and is of course a commercial site, paid for by
vendor advertising).



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wortgefecht
2016-09-06 06:45:04 UTC
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RE: crossed out bar codes: there are several German organic food
producers who actually print the bar codes with a horizontal line
through them, because their customers demand it. But they believe that
bar codes are satanic in origin ...

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Mnyb
2016-09-06 11:15:20 UTC
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Post by wortgefecht
RE: crossed out bar codes: there are several German organic food
producers who actually print the bar codes with a horizontal line
through them, because their customers demand it. But they believe that
bar codes are satanic in origin ...
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About that this kind of stuff and other fringe cults in in the green
camp actually makes it harder for real progress in greener and more long
term eco friendly food sources . Normal people tends to dismiss every
green idea due to these folks :/

Macrobiotic ,raw food etc ....



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SuperQ
2016-09-11 16:34:27 UTC
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Post by wortgefecht
RE: crossed out bar codes: there are several German organic food
producers who actually print the bar codes with a horizontal line
through them, because their customers demand it. But they believe that
bar codes are satanic in origin ...
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lol, I generally go to the biomarkt and have not seen this. I'll have
to keep an eye out so I can avoid those brands.


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